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That sounds like a great idea, although it may be tough to know everyone`s
experience in Java. Personally, I have very little Java experience, but a good
amount of programming experience. If you can come up with an idea, I may be
inclined to work on it with you.
Don
Quoting Michael Sullivan <michael@...>:
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Could we maybe start a list project? This is the Java Beginners list
and I see more job opportunities on it than Java questions. I`m poor.
All I have is my network and my books. I need a new project to work
on..
-Michael Sullivan-
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Sounds like fun. Do you want to make something useful like an open source
project or just a game or something for fun? I`ll admit that I am skeptical of
how effective requirements and design phases are in projects done over the
internet, but I`d be willing to see if it could work.
Dustin
Michael Sullivan <michael@...> wrote:
Could we maybe start a list project? This is the Java Beginners list
and I see more job opportunities on it than Java questions. I`m poor.
All I have is my network and my books. I need a new project to work
on..
-Michael Sullivan-
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I don`t have any idea right now for projects. I was thinking though
that each participant contributed an object for use in the project
according to their own talent and skill level. I`ve often found that I
learn new things when working on programming projects - new objects and
new ways of doing things. I`m not that good at Java either. I know the
basics (primitive data types, loops, methods and some objects), but I
was thinking that we could learn as we go. Sound good?
-Michael Sullivan-
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 13:33, lists@... wrote:
> That sounds like a great idea, although it may be tough to know
> everyone`s
> experience in Java. Personally, I have very little Java experience,
> but a good
> amount of programming experience. If you can come up with an idea, I
> may be
> inclined to work on it with you.
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> Don
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Lets start with something fun. If it works out, we can continue with
other projects of varying types. Eventually I`d like to make big
open-source applications in Java, but I don`t think I know enough yet...
-Michael Sullivan-
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:21, Dustin Metzgar wrote:
> Sounds like fun. Do you want to make something useful like an open
> source project or just a game or something for fun? I`ll admit that I
> am skeptical of how effective requirements and design phases are in
> projects done over the internet, but I`d be willing to see if it could
> work.
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> Dustin
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> Michael Sullivan <michael@...> wrote:
> Could we maybe start a list project? This is the Java Beginners list
> and I see more job opportunities on it than Java questions. I`m poor.
> All I have is my network and my books. I need a new project to work
> on..
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Sounds good to me. We`ll start off with a counter class. Will you
please write up a plan of objects we`ll need and then we can ask for
volunteers for each object...
-Michael Sullivan-
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 18:32, Don Roberts wrote:
> My vote would be for something easy first. Right now I`m in the middle
> of 2 VB projects
> and my final Java project (an email client app or applet that just
> sends mail). I run a
> web counter site, and the most searched for web counter is a java
> counter, but there are
> no good ones out there. I`ve been meaning to look into making one,
> maybe we could do that?
> It would actually be used by other people, so that`s always cool. Not
> sure how many
> classes it would need: counter class (extends applet), a class to save
> the hits to a file
> somewhere (probably the hardest thing), the executable class, etc. The
> final class file
> would have all of those combined.
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> Let me know what you think.
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> **From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:michael@...]
> **Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:07 AM
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> **Lets start with something fun. If it works out, we can
> **continue with other projects of varying types. Eventually
> **I`d like to make big open-source applications in Java, but I
> **don`t think I know enough yet...
> **
> **-Michael Sullivan-
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> **On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:21, Dustin Metzgar wrote:
> **> Sounds like fun. Do you want to make something useful like an
> open
> **> source project or just a game or something for fun? I`ll
> **admit that I
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> in
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Is there a way to determine what the class that called a particular
method in another class was? I`ve been working on and off the last few
months on a Java game, a remake of the original Final Fantasy for 8-bit
Nintendo with an original story (which I haven`t written yet. Working
on the battle system right now) and I wanted to put all my keyboard
routines in a KeyActions class and just have the keyPressed method of
all the classes that have key events forward the event to the KeyAction
class, which would act accordingly depending on which class called it.
Is this possible?
-Michael Sullivan-
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My vote would be for something easy first. Right now I`m in the middle of 2 VB
projects
and my final Java project (an email client app or applet that just sends mail).
I run a
web counter site, and the most searched for web counter is a java counter, but
there are
no good ones out there. I`ve been meaning to look into making one, maybe we
could do that?
It would actually be used by other people, so that`s always cool. Not sure how
many
classes it would need: counter class (extends applet), a class to save the hits
to a file
somewhere (probably the hardest thing), the executable class, etc. The final
class file
would have all of those combined.
Let me know what you think.
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**From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:michael@...]
**Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:07 AM
**To: beginnersclub@yahoogroups.com
**Subject: Re: [Java Beginner`s club] List Project
**
**Lets start with something fun. If it works out, we can
**continue with other projects of varying types. Eventually
**I`d like to make big open-source applications in Java, but I
**don`t think I know enough yet...
**
**-Michael Sullivan-
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**On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 07:21, Dustin Metzgar wrote:
**> Sounds like fun. Do you want to make something useful like an open
**> source project or just a game or something for fun? I`ll
**admit that I
**> am skeptical of how effective requirements and design phases are in
**> projects done over the internet, but I`d be willing to see
**if it could
**> work.
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**> Dustin
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**Beginners list
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are u considering other topics
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Of course, any ideas?
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Hi Mike,
as far as I recall my Core Java 2 book (great stuff, but hard work to
work through) you can use the Reflection mechanism to find out the
calling hierarchy of any given class. But I admit that I just have
browsed through it VERY shortly...
Hope the keyword Reflection is enough for you. Otherwise I`ll dive
into this stuff again if you ask me. ;-)
Cheers,
Nico
--- In beginnersclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan <michael@e...>
wrote:
> Is there a way to determine what the class that called a particular
> method in another class was? I`ve been working on and off the last
few
> months on a Java game, a remake of the original Final Fantasy for 8-
bit
> Nintendo with an original story (which I haven`t written yet.
Working
> on the battle system right now) and I wanted to put all my keyboard
> routines in a KeyActions class and just have the keyPressed method
of
> all the classes that have key events forward the event to the
KeyAction
> class, which would act accordingly depending on which class called
it.
> Is this possible?
>
> -Michael Sullivan-
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I suppose one way to do it is to get a stack trace. You could throw and catch
an exception and iterate through the StackTraceElement`s. I`m not sure how to
get a stack trace otherwise.
Another way is to have the method require that the calling object pass itself as
a parameter.
But I think the best way is to rethink your strategy. Have your KeyAction class
as a superclass and have the different subclasses used in different portions of
the program.
Dustin
Nico Heinze <grollnar@...> wrote:
Hi Mike,
as far as I recall my Core Java 2 book (great stuff, but hard work to
work through) you can use the Reflection mechanism to find out the
calling hierarchy of any given class. But I admit that I just have
browsed through it VERY shortly...
Hope the keyword Reflection is enough for you. Otherwise I`ll dive
into this stuff again if you ask me. ;-)
Cheers,
Nico
--- In beginnersclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan <michael@e...>
wrote:
> Is there a way to determine what the class that called a particular
> method in another class was? I`ve been working on and off the last
few
> months on a Java game, a remake of the original Final Fantasy for 8-
bit
> Nintendo with an original story (which I haven`t written yet.
Working
> on the battle system right now) and I wanted to put all my keyboard
> routines in a KeyActions class and just have the keyPressed method
of
> all the classes that have key events forward the event to the
KeyAction
> class, which would act accordingly depending on which class called
it.
> Is this possible?
>
> -Michael Sullivan-
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Yes. Any project you want. We can work on multiple projects at once,
since not everyone might want to work on the Counter, not to mention the
Counter shouldn`t take very long to write...
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Thanks for the advice. I`ve decided to go with a more simple prefix
solution (battleDown, battleUp, battleRight, battleLeft, etc).
-Michael Sullivan-
On Sat, 2004-04-10 at 05:33, Nico Heinze wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> as far as I recall my Core Java 2 book (great stuff, but hard work to
> work through) you can use the Reflection mechanism to find out the
> calling hierarchy of any given class. But I admit that I just have
> browsed through it VERY shortly...
>
> Hope the keyword Reflection is enough for you. Otherwise I`ll dive
> into this stuff again if you ask me. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
>
> --- In beginnersclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan <michael@e...>
> wrote:
> > Is there a way to determine what the class that called a particular
> > method in another class was? I`ve been working on and off the last
> few
> > months on a Java game, a remake of the original Final Fantasy for 8-
> bit
> > Nintendo with an original story (which I haven`t written yet.
> Working
> > on the battle system right now) and I wanted to put all my keyboard
> > routines in a KeyActions class and just have the keyPressed method
> of
> > all the classes that have key events forward the event to the
> KeyAction
> > class, which would act accordingly depending on which class called
> it.
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > -Michael Sullivan-
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