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Re: XML Authoring

cramerdw Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:32 am

Joined: 20 May 2005

Posts: 7

Re: XML Authoring

Welcome to xml-doc. Here are a couple of places that have good
information about xml editors:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/message/5250
http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:xml-doc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of b_tuthill
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:57 PM
> To: xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xml-doc] XML Authoring
>
> Hello Group,
>
> This is my first post. Does anybody know what XML authoring
> tools support Mac besides Framemaker? Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>
>

cdfj Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:14 pm

Joined: 20 May 2005

Posts: 10

Re: XML Authoring

Hi Barry,

Adobe discontinued supporting FrameMaker for Mac in April 2004 and they are
ominously silent in repsonse to all the "Has Adobe abandoned FrameMaker?"
talk on newsgroups round about, so I`d be cautious in considering FrameMaker
as a tool if I were you.

Charles

Charles Johnston

>From: "David Cramer (Tech Pubs)" <dcramer@...>
>Reply-To: xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
>To: <xml-doc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [xml-doc] XML Authoring
>Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:32:48 -0500
>
>Welcome to xml-doc. Here are a couple of places that have good
>information about xml editors:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/message/5250
>http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools
>
>David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:xml-doc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of b_tuthill
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:57 PM
> > To: xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xml-doc] XML Authoring
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > This is my first post. Does anybody know what XML authoring
> > tools support Mac besides Framemaker? Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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wolfgang.keller.nospam@.. Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:42 pm

Joined: 20 May 2005

Posts: 1

Re: XML Authoring

Hello,

>> This is my first post. Does anybody know what XML authoring
>> tools support Mac besides Framemaker? Thanks for your help!

> Welcome to xml-doc. Here are a couple of places that have good
> information about xml editors:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/message/5250

This one won`t work without "cookies" enabled.

Well, I just can`t see a reason why displaying an article from the
archive would require a cookie, other than unnerving users who tend to
configure their www clients with their brain enabled...

So could you just re-quote the relevant part of the original article?
Thanks.

> http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools

Thanks for that link.

Note also that even if an application is not marked "Mac", if it runs
on Linux and if the Sourcecode is provided, you should be able to make
it compile and work on MacOS X, provided that you have an X server and
all the other Darwin/Fink libraries installed.

So in theory it should be possible to get e.g. Conglomerate to work on
MacOS X. In practice, I don`t know how much work it takes, however.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang Keller

--
P.S.: My From-address is correct

dirtroad30534 Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:06 pm

Joined: 13 Jun 2003

Posts: 39

Re: XML Authoring

>> Does anybody know what XML authoring
>> tools support Mac besides Framemaker? Thanks for your help!

Seeing that Adobe dropped the Mac version of Frame, that`s kind of a
sore spot on many mailing lists.

> Note also that even if an application is not marked "Mac", if it runs
> on Linux and if the Sourcecode is provided, you should be able to make
> it compile and work on MacOS X...
>
> So in theory it should be possible to get e.g. Conglomerate to work on
> MacOS X. In practice, I don`t know how much work it takes, however.

My meager programming skills aren`t up to the job, I can tell you that.

A couple of commercial (but low-cost) Java apps claim to run well on OSX:

http://oxygenxml.com/
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna/

There are also a few free Java apps that at least run on OSX:

http://vex.sf.net/ (runs in Eclipse, requires Panther)
http://www.morphon.com/

If you don`t mind working with raw XML (tags & the like), high-end text
editors like Vim and Emacs work on OSX and have XML support. There`s also
a Java-based text editor called Jedit that works better than you might
expect.

--
Larry Kollar, Senior Technical Writer, ARRIS
"Content creators are the engine that drives
value in the information life cycle."
-- Barry Schaeffer, on XML-Doc

isaacrab Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:45 pm

Joined: 05 Aug 2003

Posts: 21

Re: XML Authoring

Charles Johnston wrote:

>Hi Barry,
>
>Adobe discontinued supporting FrameMaker for Mac in April 2004 and they are
>ominously silent in repsonse to all the "Has Adobe abandoned FrameMaker?"
>talk on newsgroups round about, so I`d be cautious in considering FrameMaker
>as a tool if I were you.
>
>Charles
>
>Charles Johnston
>
>
>

I very much doubt if FrameMaker for Windows will ever go away -- too
many people would rebel, and it *is* a reliable revenue stream for
Adobe. That said, FrameMaker is pretty dated product that doesn`t really
have a place in Adobe`s overall strategy. So it`s worth they while only
as long as they don`t have to spend too much money on it. That means
offshoring development (already done), a slow upgrade schedule, and
abandoning support for less popular platforms.

(Have to wonder why they still target Solaris, since few customers would
object to having to do their writing on Windows. The notable exception
is Sun, which strongly discourages in-house use of Windows systems.
Corporate politics?)

I`m actually encouraged by all this. Structured FrameMaker is a nasty
kludge, and I`m sure everybody at Adobe knows it. Hopefully, they`re
taking the resources they save by not broadly supporting FrameMaker and
using them to develop native XML authoring tools. And those *will* run
on Mac, since Adobe is still pretty Mac-centric.

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